How it’s Done
Al Franken got a little help in his Senate bid from rival Mike Ciresi. Ciresi is pulling out of the race, leaving a well funded Franken heading into the Minnesota Convention. All candidates in the race have agreed to step out if they don’t receive the convention endorsement.
“In my judgment, continuing the endorsement race would only lead to an unnecessary floor fight. It is time to step aside,” Ciresi’s statement said. – Breitbart.com
Yo. Hillary, chica. This is how it’s done. Very classy. Your way? Not so much.
March 11th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Hear, hear. And my impression of Franken is that if things had gone the other way, he’d have graciously gotten behind Ciresi rather than play “if I can’t have it, you can’t either” as Clinton appears to be doing. It also seems more likely that if she does win the nomination, Obama is more likely to show some class and work to help her than vice versa. Ironic, because in the long run, she’d have a better chance of getting there, even if not this time, if she did act with more unselfishness and dignity. Character will out, and hers is not turning out to be very appealing. She started with a lot of admiration from a lot of people, but she’s not behaving admirably.
March 11th, 2008 at 11:45 am
To be perfectly frank, I saw her speak in Chicago last year for Yearly Kos, and walked out of there convinced I did not want her as president, and I couldn’t clarify it better than she just felt insincere.
In retrospect, I think is was a sense of flawed character that put me off. She was just very insular and if rubbed me the wrong way.
I wish she wanted the best for the country, and not just the job. Hard to find in this level of power play.
March 11th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I don’t understand the Obama supporters who expect Hillary to step out of the campaign. Obama is not that far ahead in delegates, and has yet to prove that he can win many of the big states. Sure, he’s taken the small red states that will not go blue in the national election, states that Hillary didn’t run ads in or bother to campaign very hard for—if it all. He has spent almost 4-1 in money for ads and he’s had the press behind him 100%, and he STILL can’t beat Hillary in the big States. The only reason he won Illinois is because it’s his state, and even at that, he couldn’t win the rural counties—only did well in Cook County which is heavily black. In fact, the one county, Will, where there is a lot of Latino votes, he lost to Hillary.
Really, to say that Hillary lacks class compared to Obama is a joke! When asked if she would support Obama if he won the nomination, she didn’t even hesitate, she said absolutely! She said the most important thing was to get a Democrat in the WH. On the other hand, both Obama and his wife would not make the same commitment. To this day he has not. He tried to bluff his way through about being friends with Hillary before this election and that he will be after the election, but never said he would support her if she was the nominee. That’s class????
Read my blog and see the real truth about Obama. Everything is backed up with fact. I know it’s difficult to see that Obama is not the messiah everyone thinks he is, but wouldn’t it be nice to know who it is you’re all supporting here?
March 11th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
No, not a joke, an opinion, Mary Ellen, and one I took awhile coming to. I want ot see a woman in the top spot in this country, and have wanted it for several decades. She’s not the one, tho. Either she signed off on the crap they pulled in Texas, or she isn’t running her show. Either is unacceptable to me.
That damned red phone ad was racist crap. I couldn’t agree with Orlando Patterson more.
As for Bill Clinton appearing on Rush Limbaugh the day of the primary (???) What.The.Fuck.
Anything for the win, I guess, even hanging and banging with the piece of crap instrumental in derailling the focus on his presidency and embracing the tragedy that is Bush.
Not for me. I am not a fan, and I will post on this crap, because AMERCIA DESERVES BETTER.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Wait a minute….how was the red phone ad racist? I cannot see a correlation to racism at all in that ad…how do you figure? Trying to pull the race card on that is realllllyyyyy a stretch! What was it..the white phone? Should it have been black? What?
Regarding crap in TX, let’s see…the Obama camp got ahold of the packets for the caucuses early and started getting signatures before the caucuses even started…in fact, they started before noon. They only took Obama signitures, though. If a person asked for a Hillary one, they either said no, they would have to come back later, or they had them write their names on a piece of notebook paper…guess where those signatures ended up. They also, in two counties, locked Clinton supporters out of the caucus. In one case, someone called the police and it wasn’t until they showed up with election officials that the doors were opened. This is a fact, there are written reports by the police that were posted in TX.
In Wyoming, Obama had supporters going door to door trying to get them (Republicans) to re-register as Democrats for the primary so they would switch their votes. They passed out fliers telling them if they did, it would assure them that Hillary would not run against McCain. But that’s ok if they switch to Obama, right? Didn’t Obama tout how he was getting Republicans to vote for him…that’s ok? Please!
America deserves better than hypocrisy and lies…which is what Obama will bring to office. Maybe he can give Rezko a job as Secretary of the Treasury, of course, he may have to wait until he’s out of jail.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Oh.my.god.
I just read that article you sited that called the ad racist. Unbelievable. I guess behind every white person, there is a racist, eh? The child wasn’t black, therefore it was racist.
Now, who is injecting race into this campaign? How about Obama?
“They’re trying to bamboozle you. It’s the same old okie-doke. Y’all know about okie doke, right? … They try to bamboozle you. Hoodwink ya. Try to hoodwink ya. Alright, I’m having too much fun here. … ” - Barack Obama
Those are the classic words of Malcolm X.
“You’ve been hoodwinked. You’ve been had. You’ve been took. You’ve been led astray, led amok. You’ve been bamboozled.” - Malcolm X
You should be ashamed of yourself, trying to make Hillary Clinton, a woman who has worked for the black community and civil rights since she’s been in college and you are trying to imply that she’s a racist?
This disgusts me….
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March 11th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Ya know…I just put this blog on my blogroll because Windspike pointed out that he is one of the posters here. I’m taking it off…I can’t the muck that I just read, and don’t want this to recommend this filth to any of my bloggers.
It’s bad enough we have to deal with real racism in this country, but to use it for political gain, you just pointed out another reason I would never vote for Obama, even if he does win the nomination. I’d rather have McCain…as bad as he is in office than pond scum like Barack Obama.
March 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
No, I did not say she was a racist, I said her campaign is running questionable ads and hanging with the enemy.
You’d vote for McCain before you’d vote for somebody who isn’t Hillary? Good Grief. I’ll hold my nose and vote for Hillary before I’d vote for 8 more years of what we just struggled through.
By 2016, the sitting Supreme Court Justices will be the following ages.
John G. Roberts 61
John Paul Stevens 104
Samuel A. Alito, Jr. 73
Antonin Scalia 88
Anthony Kennedy 88
David Souter 85
Clarence Thomas 76
Ruth Bader Ginsburg 91
Stephen Breyer 86
You would hand those decisions to a Republican president? The picture is a bit bigger than getting a woman in the White House. Look, Mary Ellen, I want to see that as much as you do, but Hillary does not have the lead, and it is mathmatically unlikely she will prevail.
I’m sorry I got a little strident here, because we are not enemies. That Limbaugh thing has had me frosted for a couple of days, and I should not have taken it out on you.
Peace.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
If you look at that ad that you are saying is racist, there is a black child in it. Looking for racism where it doesn’t exist is racist in itself. This is not where this campaign should be headed and spreading this type of garbage does not help your cause. I’m so sick of the Obama supporters trying to brand Hillary as a racist. Like I said, she has done more for civil rights and for the black community that Obama has ever done. This is why Hillary still gets black support. Those who could look beyond the color of their skin can see that this is a bad reason to vote for a candidate.
I’m not voting for Hillary because I want a women in office, I’m voting for her because I think she’s the most qualified and would be the best leader.
I know well what is at stake with the Supreme Court. I also feel that Obama will not make good judgments about who he would choose. I’ve seen him in action, he will do whatever he can to appease those who can give him the most. That will be the Republican party. Yes, I would rather not vote than hold my nose and vote for a man like Barack Obama.
I understand that you could be upset over Bill Clinton going on Rush Limbaugh’s show. I not only didn’t hear that, but even if I did, it wouldn’t bother me any more than hearing that Jessie Jackson has been making calls and threatening his fellow Democrats who are delegates to switch to Obama. That is a fact that has been verified by more than one black delegate. He has been telling them if they don’t switch their votes to Obama, he’ll make sure that they don’t get re-elected in their districts in the next election. If you want to look for racism…it’s right there . Instead of imagining it, try looking at reality.
Go to Taylor Marsh’s blog and scroll down a couple of posts, you’ll see the picture of the black child in the ad. The Clinton campaign made sure this story was nipped in the bud before they could be falsely branded as racists again.
I think the guy who wrote that article owes Hillary an apology, not that she’ll get it. Slander is easy…now he can go crawl back under the rock he came from and hide from the public.
Disgusting.
March 11th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Jet,
Your last comment is very interesting and only one reason I’m voting for McCain. From the track-record of Republican appointed judges, chances are better than 40% that we’ll wind up with judges that disappoint Conservatives, even if McCain gets elected. Check it out!
Nixon gave us:
Warren E. Burger, a solid conservative;
Harry Blackmun, author of Roe v. Wade, who, though starting out very conservative, took a sharp turn to the left thereafter. The man deserves every expression of opprobrium ever cast in his direction by conservatives;
Lewis F. Powell, Jr., a distinctly moderate Justice (for which, read “a swing vote on the bench”, for which, read “hasn’t a principled bone in his judicial body”). Bleh!
William H. Rehnquist, a solid conservative who, nevertheless, voted to uphold Roe v. Wade — disappointing on that note but, in general, one of the good guys from a conservative point of view.
Ford gave us:
John Paul Stevens, disappointingly liberal.
Reagan gave us:
Sandra Day O’Connor, another swing vote on the court without a principled bone in her body. Invented the most vague, least helpful standards in the history of the court. Unfortunately, the liberals went along with her on her merry way. Hard to call her either liberal or conservative. She was both and she was neither, depending upon her whims of the moment.
Antonin Scalia, it’s hard to beat Wikipedia’s “Widely regarded as the intellectual anchor of the Court’s conservative wing”.
Anthony Kennedy, is fairly swingy and can surprise/disappoint conservatives at times but has ruled mostly with the conservatives on the court.
G. H. W. Bush gave us:
David H. Souter, is another who started out fairly conservative but has turned into a pretty consistent vote for the liberals.
Clarence Thomas, the whipping boy of liberals of all stripes who take any black man who would have the effrontery to be a conservative and criticizing affirmative action. Mostly, I think, he’s hated by liberals for performing the wedding ceremony for Rush Limbaugh’s third marriage (I jest). Needless to say, conservatives have been thoroughly delighted with him.
George W. Bush gave us:
John G. Roberts, and
Samuel Alito, both of whom have pleased conservatives.
So then, for those not keeping score at home, I count a total of twelve Supreme Court appointments, of which, seven (Burger, Rehnquist, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts and Alito ) have been mostly pleasing to conservatives. Five (Blackmun, Powell, Stevens, O’Connor and Souter) have been mostly a bust.
Considering all of McCain’s “maverick” moments as a legislator, I’d bump that percentage up to 50% or better that any nominee he puts forth will be a disappointment to conservatives, considering that he likes to piss conservative Republicans off almost as much as he likes to work with liberal Democrats to enact unconstitutional laws like the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act.
With a Hillary or an Obama in the WH…I shudder to think.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Two clarifications. First, in my entry for Justice Thomas, I wrote an incomplete thought. I wrote, “the whipping boy of liberals of all stripes who take any black man who would have the effrontery to be a conservative and…” I should have written something like, “the whipping boy of liberals of all stripes who would tend to take umbrage at any black man who would have the effrontery to be a conservative and…”
Second, I listed only Supreme Court Justices appointed by Republican presidents beginning with Richard M. Nixon, since these are the only ones who might have been and were expected by conservatives to have been conservative votes on the Court. Needless to say, Justices appointed by Democratic Presidents were not disappointments to conservatives because, since the New Deal era, no conservative has ever expected anything but a liberal appointee from a Democratic president. In this, they have rarely ever been disappointed.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
“In this, they have rarely ever been disappointed .”
May that trend continue, Craig.
March 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
I can’t join you in that hope but I can pretty much guarantee that the trend will continue.
As for Mary Ellen’s fear that a president Obama would be beholden to Republicans, I honestly don’t think she has anything to worry about on that account. I can pretty much guarantee that no Republican would want anything to do with any Supreme Court appointment that Obama would make. Certainly no conservative would.